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Post by generatorkiller on Jun 21, 2007 20:37:18 GMT
This thread is for anyone who would like to talk about any aspect of Extinction's philosophy, strategy, or current operations. 5 things: - We are happy to discuss any aspect of extinction in a friendly manner with any group, and we always respect a good opponent that concentrates on winning instead of whining (the DHPD and Crimson Clan have mostly come across as a great bunch of people so far). Even if you'd like to discuss a point that you know we're going to disagree with, you're fully welcome to do so, as long as you keep it civil. - If you want to flame, be prepared for us to retaliate in kind. Do not flamebait people then start whining about them being rude to you... , it's innately hypocritical and will make you look kinda dumb  - For the love of zombie Jesus, please come up with a rational argument before you accuse us of something. You wouldn't believe the amount of moronic drivel such as "urban dead is not a PvP game" or "you shouldn't kill people in this game because you wouldn't do it in real life" we've had to deal with. - We do not have any personal vendetta against your group, and would like to remain on good terms with you. We are simply a competitive group playing the game in it's purest "zombie vs. human" form according to tactics that work. Think of us as a virus, or a swarm of hungry pirahna/ killer hornets that doesn't care what social group a human is in before attacking it! - We do not "zerg", your building was destroyed by a combination of a co-ordinated real-time strike organised via these forums (and our chatroom) along with our tactic of attracting large hordes of local feral zombies. We are not going to destroy the game. We are going to make it more interesting to play for everyone by removing the current "sit in safe building in safe suburb, and never get attacked, ever" environment. We encourage everyone to donate to the game to ensure it's future. (Seriously people, it's only 5 bucks). Now that you're a zombie, feel free to join Extinction if you would like to see how we do things, we're always looking for talented and sociable new players  |
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Post by dirtyzerg on Jun 22, 2007 0:37:02 GMT
well, I'm ok with most of that. thanks for this handy thread. As posted in some other theread... we play dirty? haha. ohh thats great. :to the enemy: so your reading this huu??? i promise to give you a good ole honest curb stomping before i eat your brains. i dont need to cheat, because you can never defeat us. haha setite, that coming from you is a riot. I see you, yourself, have been reported on resens by someone for zerging. ha! of course you don't play dirty.  wtg. zerg. I'm sure there will be others to come around. Didn't slickwillie get caught zerging too? I wonder if that was posted on resens also. is it just me or are you guys also tired of hearing a bunch of whiney little pregnant doges complain about there lack of self esteem? and just because some little prick got eaten one to many times and didnt know what to make of the coordinated strikes we got going on, he through a hissy fit and reported some people for zerging, dosent mean a god damn thing. hey... are there screenshots of me zerging by any chance? didnt think so. also coward, sign your post if you insist on spaming our page cuz your a lame ass. and i wanna say again that you can report someone for anything and it dosent make it true. stay off our forum unless you actually have something intellegent to say. its not a public chat moron! P.S. can we start deleting this garbage from our forum page or at least give them there very own little box to complain into? that way they might feel special and stop making so much noise. Listen, I just found it ironic that you were shouting insults at someone for claiming you play dirty and then denying it. I happened to see proof of you, setite, zerging. Its not true because I said it, its true because you are. Whether you like it or not, you are playing dirty. Look at the screen shots. You (setite,chris187) were caught 7 blocks from each other coordinating your efforts with two different alts. Don't blame me. signed, DirtyZerg. I wonder how you'll deny the zerging claims with the proof someone posted on resens? Care to discuss that? |
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Post by setite on Jun 22, 2007 6:58:49 GMT
ok i dont know what to say to you dude... cheaters suck, it takes the fun out. 7 blocks apart means my guys mess around in two suburbs next to each other. i might switch em around but i dont attack the same people or bilding with 2 zeds or people in the same day or whatever your accusing me of. sorry man you can push some technicality if you want but i dont really care. we'll beat you fair and square.
whiner...
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Post by Concerned on Jun 22, 2007 20:07:14 GMT
I am concerned about your tactics- they are, let's face it, rather unconventional, and I am concerned that if you continue using parts like the NTJ- a group that you expressly state is designed as spies, without even declarations of their group name- that you may cause survivor groups to begin to lose their inhibitions against certain tactics- metagame spying, PK'ing, in-game spying, mass CR'ing, etc.
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Post by zeug on Jun 22, 2007 20:29:19 GMT
HA! well ... Dear Concerned, thank you for your concern and I'll pass those concerns on to the Extinction Empathy Taskforce. However I can briefly address a few of your stated concerns: 1. Meta game spying - Our forums are public and are regularly trolled by concerned survivors. 2. PK'ing - Even our most defenceless Combat Revives are subsequently re-slain ... a strange waste of survivor AP yes but it doesn't stop them. 3. In-game spying - Ummm ... duh! 4. Mass CR'ing - Extinction welcomes Combat Revives as it is one of the best recruiting tools the NTJ has. 5. etc. - yes? |
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Post by generatorkiller on Jun 22, 2007 20:31:19 GMT
^ To be fair, a zombie spy wouldn't be very effective if he had "Extinction" plastered on his forehead. You could even argue that by leaving the group name out, the NTJ are simply roleplaying as spies. We have no problem with people PK'ing us, mass-CR'ing us or in-game spying on us. In fact we like being CR'ed - lets us pick up a few helpful human skills, then go on a little rampage and smash up everyone's generators I'm not sure what you mean by metagame spying, so I'll hold my tongue on that one - if it involves pretending to join Extinction in order to get info out of us, it won't really help much - all our attack targets are posted publically to get the word out to as many people as possible. Thanks for the input, anyway I'm curious - what parts of our tactics do you consider "unconventional"? What kind of tactics would be considered "conventional"? We're certainly doing things differently, but we're being polite about it. As mentioned above, we do not have a vendetta against, and will not be vindictive (by using malicious tagging or rumours etc.) towards any particular player or group. We are simply here to eat everyone. |
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Post by Concerned on Jun 22, 2007 21:46:10 GMT
The tactics I see as unconventional are, of course, not advertising your group name in your spec-ops group- the RRF and most major zombie groups do as much- and NTJ's, the human spies tactics of desiring to remain alive rather than becoming zombies again- as much as survivors desire to become survivors again. The other tactics NTJ uses are standard.
Also, most zed groups don't seek to squat NT's specifically.
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Post by zeug on Jun 23, 2007 10:01:01 GMT
The tactics I see as unconventional are, of course, not advertising your group name in your spec-ops group Ummm ... SpecOps are both Extinction Troopers (with Extinction in their group profiles) and NTJ. It's up to individual NTJunkies what they put in their profile. Again it totally depends on the individual NTJunkie. Zeug loves being able to hop between being an Extinction Commander and an NTJ Scout. You get the best of both worlds and when he's done scouting he'll lead a zombie assault on a safehouse and kamikaze himself using up his AP directing the zeds to the weakest survivors and babbling insane stuff at the latter to get them to waste their AP's gunning him down. It's awesome when you're waiting for it and manage to get a ?rise in to stand back up again as a zombie inside! That there is the raison d'etre of Extinction as originally conceived by Extinction Commander and founder Dr'Brainz. It's THE basic gameplay concept underlying everything Extinction does. It's gratifying to know you think it's "unconventional". |
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Post by generatorkiller on Jun 23, 2007 10:18:15 GMT
It's a choice between that and being PK'ed on sight every time you log in due to being a zombie spy. Simple common sense really. A spy doesn't show off his/her group name for the same reasons that he wouldn't run around buildings screaming "I'm in ur buildings scouting ur doods 4 extinction lol" - It'd be stupid, get them killed and make them unable to do their job. Playing this game in stealth mode can actually be quite rewarding and fun - see my "stealth GK'ing" tactic thread in the Got Mrh? forum for an example of the kind of stuff you can do without being noticed. This one is quite easy to answer - the characters of that group may be in human form, but they are most definitely on the zombie "side". We have humans around, because we accept that a lot of people prefer the playstyle of humans, and we'd like them to join, too. People have no problem with zombies characters joining survivor groups, as long as they only attack humans that their particular group has declared as an "enemy". I'm confused as to why the average person would be bothered about us doing that the other way around with human characters joining a zombie group. Another one of the reasons for NTJ members remaining in stealth mode is that some of our human players don't want to PK, and having the option to simply scout around, causing havoc by stealth-debarricading (since the last update, this is more easily done by a human from the inside than a zombie from the outside) means that they're not forced into a playing style they don't like. We do this because it works. It's unconventional, but definitely not morally questionable I hope that clears a few things up, and thanks for being polite about your concerns. |
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Post by humanlol on Jul 30, 2007 23:08:26 GMT
What happens when everybody is a zombie anyway?
People create new accounts.
So what's the point anyway?
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Post by Dr'Brainz on Jul 30, 2007 23:10:39 GMT
we like taking over suburbs....thats the point....we realize that world domination never works... ;D
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Post by cloud6272 on Jul 30, 2007 23:14:27 GMT
What happens when everybody is a zombie anyway? People create new accounts. So what's the point anyway? We are attempting to make all suburbs Red on the Wiki. we actully just had a chat of this between me, arm and Grif. If we can take over all suburbs Keven will proply log on and make a god character and wipe half of us out  . Or so says the prophecy. WE MUST COMPLETE THE PROPHECY!!! Alkalselsha!!!!@#$%^&&*(moo) |
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Post by armareum on Jul 31, 2007 0:23:38 GMT
We cannot take over all suburbs, we are just trying to hold territory. New players aren't the problem, after all they can't even make barricades. No barricades = death. Two things counter our aim of 'Extinction' 1) Currently we are pushing survivors out (as they leave an get revived elsewhere). This means that is we gained more and more territory then survivors would be present in the remaining ones at higher and higher concentrations. We'd reach a point where it's be almost impossible to defeat those numbers. Theoretical, but more a problem than your 'new players, duh' point. 2) Also, [censored] Sorry for the edit, but setite's got a really good point - generatorkiller |
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Post by setite on Aug 4, 2007 5:22:32 GMT
we should stop telling people that they can do [that]. if its not well known lets keep it that way. Edit: -- I fully agree, even I didn't know this until someone on here told me about it  - generatorkiller |
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Post by zeug on Aug 4, 2007 9:51:56 GMT
2) Also, [censored] Sorry for the edit, but setite's got a really good point - generatorkiller Ummm .... que? What's this about? |
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Post by armareum on Aug 5, 2007 10:29:56 GMT
I *think* I can remember what I wrote. I'll PM you.
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Post by zeug on Aug 6, 2007 6:24:14 GMT
I *think* I can remember what I wrote. I'll PM you. Ohhhh ... you mean [redacted] from [redacted], yes ... shhhhh ... nothin to see here folks, move along. |
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Post by mobius on Aug 16, 2007 0:57:49 GMT
Not a bad set up you've got going on here. I wonder why Dr.Brainz was spending so much time on our forum. Must have been sick of the gloom and doom look. |
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wtg. zerg.
. Or so says the prophecy.
- generatorkiller